Posts by never a jw

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Governing Body, painted in a corner, now what?

by Wasanelder Once in

the governing body have painted themselves in a corner, so to speak.

if they acknowledge their response to abuse claims was insensitive, unloving and inadequate they are denying the belief that "god's way" is best and risk losing abuse cases.

if they stick with it and say it is "god's way according to the bible" they will be seen as cult leaders and risk losing abuse cases.

never a jw

john amos

Few pages after your quote of Deuteronomy, in the divine, superior law of Moses given by Jehovah himself, you find this: (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Would you like to make suggestions to the Royal Commission to solve child sexual abuse using the DIVINE LAW in Deut 22:28-29. Pretty straightforward and easy solution. Just beautiful!!! Why those worldly people can't see Jehovah's wisdom?

I think the Governing Body would love this solution. I feel that 50 shekels is a lot less than the worldly courts would like to set as just compensation for victims. Also, you finally get another woman into submission to the headship appointed by Jehovah, for a lifetime. Just wonderful!

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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches

by CalebInFloroda in

when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.

i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.

i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.

never a jw

"My theory is that the original NWT was a revised RSV, and the latest NWT is definitely the NRSV, sometimes shamelessly so."

Caleb, can you give examples of the shameless lifting? I am very interested.

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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches

by CalebInFloroda in

when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.

i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.

i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.

never a jw

got 7 out of 20, but...but...but, in my defense... I know more than most JW's and I have been an atheist since age 13.

The test is so unfair. You never asked the things I know.

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DOES BELIEF IN THE BIBLE DESTROY ONE'S INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY?

by TerryWalstrom in

based on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.

the bible-believers effect.

those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.

never a jw

Belief in the Bible or any supernatural force intervening in human affairs suppresses, limits, reduces, puts it sleep, but not destroy our intellectual capacity. Plenty of former believers have seen the light and adhere to the scientific method and reason. Rarely do you see a change in the opposite direction (from scientific minded to believer in myth)

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Did you know WTBTS applied for Holocaust compensation?

by umbertoecho in

did you know that the wtbts applied for these compensation funds?

i had no idea and if this has already been addressed then so be it.

i find it interesting due to the fact that so much is made of the jws being in camps during ww2 and nothing else is expressed about the other millions who died in these camps.

never a jw

Well, c'mon, the Watchtower deserved compensation, they suffered losses. During the time the German JW's were in concentration camps the attendance to meetings and donations were next to nothing, or probably nothing.Losses likely into the millions.

Also, all the JW's from the Allied Forces that sacrificed their lives/livelihood to save their brothers in Germany reduced the income of the Watchtower... wait, JW's don't lift a finger to save themselves, someone else has to do it...OK, OK,... but my previous paragraph still has some merit.

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People should learn more about the Bible flaws

by opusdei1972 in

i have noted that the main problem for those who are seduced by the watchtower society is their ignorance about the bible itself.

people who believe that the bible is the word of god usually ignore the studies on textual criticism and how scientific criteria forbid absurd stories like that of the global flood.

so, i strongly believe that students in schools need at least an obligatory course on "the bible" through the point of view of science and the textual criticism.

never a jw

Introduction to Bible scholarship at high schools? That'll be the day.

We are not men of faith, but we can always hope for a miracle.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

never a jw

Morpheus and Phitchermen,

I forgot to thank you guys. You made this thread so much enlightening and fun. Morpheus provided the enlightenment and PHitchermen provided... well ... he provided the fun.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

never a jw

Phitchermen,

What's the big deal about answering your questions in public. There's noting personal about you. A violation of privacy, maybe, but a great public service, especially for those who don't know the culture at Bethel. This mild violation is well worth the results.

There... Call me an idiot, and an imbecile too.

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Finally an Article About Unthank!

by jamiebowers in

http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/news/local/news/general/private-prosecution-gets-thrown-out-of-court/2468225.aspx?storypage=2private prosecution gets thrown out of court.

by louis nelson.

27 feb, 2012 01:00 am.

never a jw

" 'publishers' were not representatives or volunteers of the Watchtower Society."

The meaning is along the lines of WT's deception-without-lying modus operandi.

Publisher are not really volunteers. Would you call someone a volunteer when he/she believes that not doing something means eternal death. JW's are subject to duress, to emotional coercion. Who would volunteer for the preaching if there were not threats of destruction?

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What kind of errors in the Bible?

by TheWonderofYou in

the new testament specialist daniel wallace notes that although there are about 300,000 individual variations of the text of the new testament, this number is very misleading.

most of the differences are completely inconsequential--spelling errors, inverted phrases and the like.

a side by side comparison between the two main text families (the majority text and the modern critical text) shows agreement a full 98% of the time.[18].

never a jw

Yeah, full agreement here. We have accurately copied non sense, superstition and inconsistent doctrine and narratives from the first century. Excellent point!!!